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Alison and I went to a hibachi place for lunch because she had a bogo free lunch coupon. Anyway, we were seated with 6 old people (est 60+). All in all it was nice conversation until the topic rolled around to politics. UGH! Apparently only one guy was pro-Obama. The rest were militant McCain supporters. Fine, you can chose who you want. That's what makes America great. However, they were also incredibly racist. One lady was telling off the Pro-Obama guy over that 'anti-America' speech his former pastor made. I also heard another lady at the end of the table say "If Obama gets voted in, they'll have to rename it the Black House." This was followed up with various stereotypical comments about rims on the limo and 'blacking up' the Oval Office. Alison looked at me and said "Let's get out of here before the Klan rally starts."

There are many things once can expect when living in the South, however I still get shocked when I see/hear things like this.

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From:

keita-yuki.livejournal.com

personally I think our choices suck ... so whos the lesser evil?

But for me... the main reason why I will not vote democratic for the first time in my life is because Obama approves of the partial birth abortion, saying women have a right to choose. Which at first I was agreeing with because my personal choice is pro choice as well. Till my mom described to me what partial birth abortion is, then I was horrfied this procedure is allowed and happens.

*copies and pastes from medical site description*
Partial Birth Abortion - The partial-birth abortion procedure, used from the fifth month on, involves pulling a living baby feet-first out of the womb, except for the head, puncturing the skull and suctioning out the brain. The great majority of partial-birth abortions are preformed on healthy babies of healthy mothers.

If an abortion is to happen I think it should happen sooner not this 5 month and later one. At 5 months that child might surivie being born to soon if it was given the chance.. so to me at that point its a little person.

**though Im pro choice, my personal choice would be to turn down any form of abortion if I was carrying a baby.**

From:

morganskye.livejournal.com

O_O That's sick. If you've carried for that long then you should give that baby a chance and put it up for adoption. I feel nauseous.

Personally I also believe that a woman has the right to chose, but I also think that it's being abused. "I don't have to be safe. I can get an abortion." It's disgusting how some women just don't care about what they're doing.

From:

sarcasm-hime.livejournal.com

I doubt it's that simple, that Obama is like "I am in support of dragging healthy babies out of wombs"; the definition and timeframe is still under a lot of debate AFAIK.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5168163

I agree that abortion should happen as early as possible but as detailed in the link above some serious deformities and problems do not show up until later in the pregnancy.

Honestly...of course who you vote for is your business and your decision, but IMO choosing not to vote for someone just because of one issue is questionable. Do you think he is otherwise the better person to lead the country? It may sound callous, but I think the US has far bigger problems to deal with than whether a couple thousand woman are allowed to have abortions.

Edited Date: 2008-10-21 01:07 am (UTC)

From:

morganskye.livejournal.com

Hmm, I didn't know that was a political term. Makes sense since it's worded for shock value. *rolls eyes* I hate lobbyists.
Indeed, when some members of Congress tried to amend the bill to ban only those procedures that take place after viability, abortion opponents complained that would leave most of the procedures legal.

Yeah, we have a LOT more to work on, like the budget, welfare, health care, the military, taxes...It makes me wish we'd get invaded by aliens so that everyone would be on the same page for once.